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Michael Jackson’s untimely death stunned the world, and now the eyes of the world are focused on the last man to see him alive: Conrad Murray. Murray has admitted he gave the propofol to Michael, but many things remain to be seen. Was the dose lethal? Did the benzodiazepines also administered by Murray exacerbate the propofol’s effects? Was Flumazenil the appropriate counter-measure? Why did a cardiologist perform CPR on a bed, of all places? Why the delay in calling for help? Why did he feel it necessary to bring Prince into the room where his father lay dying? Did he act alone?
To all who visit this site, I hope you will share any insight or information you may have.
So many questions. I’m ready for answers.
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I keep thinking that Dr. Murray was the last in a very long line of doctors that should have said no to Michael. The only logic that I can imagine is that they said yes because yes = $$$$ and no = $0. I suppose that he encountered many doctors who did tell him no, and he moved on until he got the yes he was looking for. It’s the drug seeking behavior of an addict.
I understand that the stresses Michael had been under – life in a fishbowl, pressure to create and perform, slaughter and sacrifice by the media, etc. must have been unbearable over the years. I don’t know that many of us, given the influence and the financial resources that Michael had wouldn’t have turned to the same medications and experienced the same devasting effects. The molestation allegations alone would be enough to push most anyone over the edge.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think that Michael was responsible for his own choices and actions. However, it has to be understood that addiction makes people do things that the would not normally do, and behave in ways that they normally would not. Addiction is powerful indeed, and difficult, if not impossible sometimes, to overcome on one’s own. Michael was no more infallible that anyone else, and as I have said, under tremendous pressure and scrutiny. He had to have convinced himself in his addictions that he could control it all, as is not uncommon in addiction. Otherwise the thought of leaving his children without him the way he did, could and probably would have been a very powerful force that might have turned him down a different path. Sadly, addiction clouds the mind and then manipulates it.
Michael’s addictions would not have been able to progress to the point of using propofol to sleep (which is unimaginable in itself) without the cooperation of many unscrupulous medical “professionals”. Michael was surrounded by people that were more interested in taking advantage of him than they were in looking out for him. They fed his addictions willingly, and his addictions separated him from the few people in his life that really loved him. The more that the people who loved him protested his drug use, the farther he distanced himself from them. It’s the way addictions manipulate and destroy lives. From there, a person just sinks deeper and deeper down.
Perhaps if those sworn to provide medical treatment in the best interest of their patient had done so, and continued to refuse his requests, he may have been forced into treatment, or may have chosen it on his own, and he might be alive today. The difference between Conrad Murray and the rest is that his greed and stupidity got him caught, while the rest of them managed to emerge unscathed and slither away quietly, at least for now.
Regardless of faulty choices and responsibility, it’s the loss of a human life, one that arguably did much good work in it’s time, and much of it in silence and anonymity. It’s a shameful comment on the way that people are sometimes capable of using and abusing each other without conscience. A tragedy that cannot be undone.
Remember that there is not one of us who doesn’t need to have someone look out for us. We can survive, but not thrive without being loved and truly treasured by someone in this life. It’s the most important thing. So when it comes to the ones that you love, tell them so. Every day without fail. And look ‘em in the eye every time you say it. Especially your kids. It will teach them to do the same thing, and everyone will come out better for it in the end.
I guess that would be my two cents. Blessings to all.
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this is a 2 part video series (just have to wait for the ads in between: http://investigation.discovery.com/videos/michael-jacksons-death-the-conrad-murray-defense.html
when we consider what is being reported in the media regarding details of events, do keep in mind that most of it is based on MURRAY’s testimony. that is a one-sided perspective. CM did not order propofol under MJ’s name. he may give the reason of “patient privacy”, but consider this: there is no documentation of his approved hire, nor is there documentation that MJ himself hired him. it is *rumored* that they met in late Dec. 2006, when one of CM’s patient’s son introduced CM to MJ for the purpose of checking up on MJ’s children for ailments. first, CM is NOT a pediatrician. secondly, MJ has Lupus, which would be a far more plausible reason to consider a cardiologist. but there is no documentation to confirm the rumor. and, in the search warrant affidavit of MJ’s LA residence, there was only ONE prescription med from CM to MJ, dated late 2008. CM otherwise did not document his “treatment” of MJ. in LA it is not uncommon for entertainers and athletes to use oxygen therapy, and MJ had made it previously known that he often would become quite dehydrated after performances, so a saline drip for hydrations makes perfect sense. but propofol? watch the Aphrodite Jones interview w/ Dr. Treacy, and ask yourself, would it be uncharacteristic of MJ to use propofol, especially w/ his beloved children in his home and no anaesthesiologist? i’m a bit wary of nurse Cherilyn Lee’s statements as well, and am wondering that if she did actually carry a discussion (again, no witnesses) as she had described, could she have misunderstood MJ’s “request”? further yet, why would MJ call her while he was having some sort of reaction – half his body cold, the other hot? where was his supposed in-house personal physician then? was this an indication that MJ may have had a reason not to trust Murray? just somethings to consider. it’s CM’s word, w/ the help of the media and, oddly, support from MJ’s own family that MJ was an addict – even as J family members signed an official letter in 2007 animately denying that there were ever any “interventions” as claimed by People Magazine.
what was damning for Murray are the testimonies by EMT that MJ was dead for at least 20 minutes to an hour before they arrived. Murray is not only negligent, he’s a liar – and he has help to pollute the jury pool. what i want to know now is if MJ and CM actually DID meet in 2006 (and none of MJ’s friends or family had supposedly even heard of Murray) in the way previously described on my post, WHO introduced them? MJ’s own LV bodyguards had stated that they themselves had never seen/heard of Murray. honestly, i think “panther” is on to something.
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There’s too many inconsitences here, I don’t know what to believe. Hospice patient, that day, dancing, twirling the days before. Doesn’t sound right to me!!
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Michael didn’t use propofol. Murray injected it into MJ’s IV wile Michael resieve fluid because He was dehidrated. Just think… how man after such hard fisical word be not able to sleep? Anyone can sleep like a baby after such exersises.
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Michael didn’t use propofol. Murray injected it into MJ’s IV wile Michael resieve fluid because He was dehidrated. Just think… how man after such hard fisical word be not able to sleep? Anyone can slee like a baby after such exersises.
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I can’t help thinking about why he administered the propofol without a monitor to follow the ECG and oxygen level.
I am a nurse , even i know that you cannot give these kind of drugs without the right equipment, ofcourse Michael didn’t survive. It’s a miracle it went well for a few weeks.
A real doctor doesn’t put the life of his patient at risk.
CPR on a bed , unbelievable, every doctor and every nurse knows that’s impossible.
I think he knew he couldn’t do anything to bring Michael back, he probably was already dead for more than 10 minutes.
It’s horrible.
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please pardon the long rant… regarding the meds, a friend, who is a brilliant bio chem major (final year; 2nd major), w/ a sister who is a medical doctor, pulled together this autopsy report analysis. it is quite detailed and received the highest marks in her class w/ support of her various professors (her personal opinions aside, consider the drug calculations).
trying to copy over…but having trouble… the link is:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Jackson-Homicide-Investigative-Research/296194732047?v=app_2373072738#!/topic.php?uid=296194732047&topic=13879
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